All those who are wondering how some people are getting huge number of votes everyday, here is a glimpse of their cheat-sheets. These can put any voter’s list to shame! Like someone mentioned, people have made it so easy, that there is no need for sophisticated technology to weed out such stuff. Some simple “sort and search algorithms” are enough.
So please don’t get ruffled up. Stay calm and focus on your application. We can (and will) differentiate the good guys from the bad. We are just collecting enough evidence for the jury - who will make their own judgments. Looks like even the Rediff corporate email account is not spared (list below) - some insider help, maybe?
These are just 2 “isolated segments” from different applicants. There are many more. All I can assure you is that we have time-stamp’ logs of every little activity, every ‘denial of service’ attack, every attempt at hacks.
Today someone pointed out that people are even linking to fake blogs! Be assured that our content team is on guard and will verify authenticity of each and every piece of information used on the application. Thank you for your tips - please stand guard and warn us when you notice ‘bad’ stuff.
Good Job!! While this is great, dont forget that you are the ones to be entirely balmed for this (TGDC). When you encouraged this behavior to gain popularity in beginnig, you should have thought about it.
There is something called Peer pressure…I can guarantee that none of the applicants would have 100% real votes.
So advice, that you either:
1. Find a way to differentiate good votes from bad or,
2. Change dates, start fresh and let there be a healthy competition this time.
No point, shortlisting a guy, gain mileage on his expanse and at the time of price distribution pull logs and save cool cash and walk away.
Think again Experience Commerce, even you are not being fair alng with HM.
Posted by Amar on 07/13 at 04:04 PM
I am really happy to see that TGDC is working towards the Quality of votes.
Thanks Team GDC… Looking forward for July 17th now!!!
Posted by Vinny K Williams on 07/13 at 05:32 PM
Respect the privacy of rediff’s corporate resources / personnel. Posting it here, for the reason you have received from a erring applicant isn’t professional. hope you see the sanity here than verifying the identity and be reasonable to carry the brand name of Mitshubushi…
I would like to clarify that while we still encourage people to get votes, peer pressure is not a good enough reason to get false votes. Team GDC has clarified from the day this blog was launched and over countless support emails , that while count of votes is one very important factor - it is not the only factor that will help determine who makes it to the shortlist.
False votes do not give GDC any popularity, because of the simple reason they don’t belong to anyone.
Many people have complained that people are getting votes en-masse from their colleagues and all their family members. We don’t see anything illegal with that - at least real people are voting. It is ok (with us) if you call your parents and all your cousins back home to vote for you. Heck if someone is patiently laboring to create false gmail IDs and voting him(her)self - not much we can do either except make sure that votes are just one of the selection criteria.
We respect privacy and the only reason we published the second list is because we are reasonable certain that a majority of these accounts do not exist. We may be wrong. Prior to publishing we checked and found out that most corporate email accounts in Rediff corporation end with rediff.co.in, or people use the secure web-mail service rediffmail.com. Also he timing sequence and nature of these email IDs makes them very suspect. We will dig deeper.
Several people have been urging us to be vocal in condemning the behavior observed with certain applicants, and thus this post.
Posted by Sandip on 07/13 at 07:40 PM
Votes were the Main Criteria and the Creativity took a back seat ! was the Initial Impression TGDC created in everyone’s mind.
This Contest has taken a wrong route.
Posted by Dr KS Anand on 07/14 at 01:58 AM
Just for benefit of all, following the comments trail on this post, would like to repeat that no one has been disqualified yet - and will not be, just because their voting pattern is suspect. It may certainly impact their overall scores, if we have hard evidence.
If a 3rd party puts ‘fake votes’ intentionally on someone’s application page, all the candidate has to do is send an email to TGDC support - and these votes shall be deleted. The onus is on the applicant to monitor his voting list and testimonials list.
Ref the comment that creativity has taken a backseat, my response to Dr. Anand is that it is certainly not evident when we view the Flickr stream on your application here > http://tinyurl.com/msjsjt
All the best Dr. Anand. Thank you for expressing your concerns and thank you for your support.
Posted by Sandip on 07/14 at 03:19 AM
however, it is not right to say ‘’ no applicant has 100%genuine votes’’ like some members are claiming here. We are happy to confidently say that we know (almost) everyone who has voted for us and thanked them personally in respective orkut communities.
Anyway we trust you completely to take this contest to the next level and choose the right winner.
Posted by Ananda & Nischala on 07/14 at 04:44 AM
Posted by Geeta & Praful on 07/14 at 06:09 AM
Hi TDGC team,
Firslty, let me say - great work in making the system transparent to all of us and it is great to know that you are making efforts to make sure that this remains a fair competition.
I see many replies saying that “the competition has taken the wrong route”. To be honest, this is what my initial reaction was when I first saw a few profiles climbing 600 odd votes in no time. My immediate reaction was “its time to end our vote campaign”. However, I have been proved wrong ever since. Every post that I have seen from TGDC team thereafter seems to suggest that it will eventually be a fair contest and absolute number of votes wouldn’t be the only criteria used.
BTW, this contest has been a marketing gem! Great idea.
Posted by Aditi and Anupam Mathur on 07/14 at 07:16 AM
Posted by Geeta on 07/14 at 07:38 AM
We have added a ‘new tab’ that you are seeing now. which lists latest applications, first. So as new applications enter the system this week, and get featured, they are available for all to see. Hopefully this adds some freshness.
The “view by popularity” tab is unchanged but moved to the adjacent tab. Hope this helps.
Thanks for your assurance. Looked at your site you have going there - wonderful effort.
Posted by Sandip on 07/14 at 08:01 AM
The list by date was little confusing. As per our perception we were 8th to register for the contest. Kinldy clarify,
as we r little anxious to see all new faces appearing in the contest. Infact, our computer has not been shut down from 22nd June, as it is set c the latest score of votes n ur blog.
Posted by Geeta on 07/14 at 09:53 AM
I have been in the area of Social Media for past three years now, as an Online Branding Strategist, and have seen such cases. Apart from figuring emails and time, I am sure you would also be tracking IP addresses.
I was surprised to see people with almost no online activity gaining more than a thousand votes, in matter of days. In any case, for certain, one cannot have that big a offline social circle, this contactable.
I hope QUALITY will be taken in to account more than QUANTITY, keeping in mind there are people who are still joining the Great Driving Challenge.
Posted by Divya Uttam on 07/14 at 10:28 AM
The Travel route given by each applicant has a different starting and ending point. i read in the terms and condition that 9 couples would be called to mumbai for the final round and out of which 3 couples would be selected for the final round. Now pls clarify that the 3 couples will again travel to the destination they have initially planned and then start the 10 days adventurous trip and come back to mumbai ??? or every body should start and end at Mumbai..????
Posted by Zaheer Bakshi on 07/14 at 12:02 PM
Would also appreciate if you could add some kind of counter tab, where we could know as to how many participants have enrolled, with whom we would be competing against
Posted by Zaheer Bakshi on 07/14 at 12:05 PM
Nine couples will be called to Mumbai for a selection procedure (we will write about that later). From this 2-day event, 3 finalists will emerge. They will all start and end their trip in Mumbai. They are free to present their own travel plans, as per the T&C spelt out, though the jury may suggest changes, in consultation with the participants.
There is only ONE drive-off.
Posted by Sandip on 07/14 at 12:29 PM
Its not really impossible to gather votes in a matter of a few days. Roohshad and me decided to register on the 11th of July. We put up our page minutes before 12th midnight and took it up as a challenge to gather as many votes as we can.
Yes! we definitely do have a HUGE social network to our advantage! And we are happy and proud to say that between us, our family, friends… their friends and family, between our joint 2800 friends on facebook, and the friends of these 2800, hundreds of SMS’ and emails…we have already clocked in 700 votes in 68 hours!
We are aware that this is not the only criteria. But then again, this is exactly what gives Mitsubishi the publicity it needs, our friends.. the excitement of this challenge, and us..the “edge” we need to get one step ahead of the others
Posted by Zinaida Mascarenhas on 07/14 at 03:07 PM
Now that you are clarifying question on voting and on the next few stages… i have some for you…
Why is voting important?
Should not testimonials and the content of testimonials be more important (than voting)?
There seems to be a lower limit of 3000kms for the 10 day trip… is there an upper limit of the number of Kms?
Is the “travel plan” that we commit now final… or can we evolve from it?
Why is it that some of us have URLs like application/12345657788 and others have application/name?
Posted by Harsha Koda on 07/14 at 06:21 PM
In spite of all these clarifications…. U still maintain that popularity is ‘just’ one of the criteria.
Posted by Prabha Koda on 07/14 at 06:54 PM
I am happy to see a lot of discussion on this topic but there are certain fundamental assumptions that are being made that are flawed, for example let us sat that there is a guy working for a big corporate and let us say that he had a huge team of of 200 - 300 folks and he send out a request to the team to vote for himself, and lets say that 10- 20 of his team members vote immediately the log created will have the following trail a block of 10 - 20 different e mail id’s that are valid (as they would be confirming the votes too) and all the e mails tracable to the same I P as the ip layer visible will be that of the corporate,,,
And lets say the contestant send these kind of request to different units / departments within his organization then he will be branded as a “BAD APPLE” as per the TGDC team’s analysis.
This poor participant will further get victimized in case the second part of the logic that he has no activity on his social networking site so he will not have access to such a mass group of contacts outside :( .
Poor Participant guy - Hope TGDC team is a bit more rational and level headed and comes with a fair an just process to evaluate and shortlist the top 100 folks instead of taking a shortsighted view of things.
I would suggest a certain amount of marks for each criteria like
Number of Votes -30 %
What say folks??
Raju and Shilpa
Posted by V S Raju on 07/14 at 08:43 PM
Of course there is some food for thought
1. Discussion is good. To be honest, people getting more votes by hook or crook are the ones “gaining” on at least one criteria as far as we have understood the comments from EC/TGDC.
2. The entire idea is about gaining popularity and get known. Contestants creating the biggest discussion wave causes more attention and thus further popularity of Mitsubishi/TGDC. Is TGDC yet an equal opportunity player? :o)
3. All criteria look subjective. After all this is all about getting popular. At the end jury has to see how significant are the 99% participants who trusted TGDC team, or, the 1% who created controversies or sparked discussions and brought more attention to TGDC.
Posted by Ram & Rakhi on 07/14 at 09:10 PM
An objective list of actions or criteria can resolve the war of the “good” and the “bad” would be much appreciated from TGDC.
Of course, it might not be the focus of TGDC at all.
It is up to TGDC to understand that every participant has played a role in the popularity and awareness, not just “highly voted” ones.
Posted by Ram & Rakhi on 07/14 at 09:23 PM
I hope participating in forum discussions is not one of the hidden criteria
I just wanted to mention that the contest talked about getting votes without laying any ground-rules. Assuming EVERYONE would play fair is probably too much to ask, no insinuation intended.
Posted by Saurabh on 07/15 at 04:08 AM
Posted by Geeta on 07/15 at 06:16 AM
First of all i would like to thank you TGDC for appreciating our application on the blog titled forever young. I went through the popularity list today and it was unbelievable. I would not like to comment on ethics issue, but i hope that the jury will take a rational call on this and put weightage on parameters such as, creativity in presentation, the genuineness and passion and of course what will be the socially significant contribution as participants in this mega event…as brand ambassadors
Posted by chandrani chaudhuri on 07/15 at 02:44 PM